I am thinking KDE Neon is a horrible choice to run under a virtual machine.
8gb ram is not really ideal. I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 12:20:00 +0000
"Matthew Munson" (VERT/IUTOPIA) <VERT/IUTOPIA!Matthew.Munson@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

I am thinking KDE Neon is a horrible choice to run under a virtual
machine. 8gb ram is not really ideal. I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

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I've moved from Ubuntu to Arch at home. I like that it's up-to-date and
I had issues with the last major update. I don't like pacman as much as
apt or dnf but it does the job. Of course, you have have to use KDE
Neon, you can use any Window Manager you want.
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On 21 Jun 2026, Matthew Munson said the following...

I am thinking KDE Neon is a horrible choice to run under a virtual machine. 8gb ram is not really ideal. I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

what are you using it for? Alpine is pretty nice for tiny stuff, but you have the alternate libc and toolset (musl and BusyBox) so some things aren't 100% compatible without a little help.

wikipedia says it'll go with about 128mb of ram and ~138mb of disk space lol

obviously your minimal gui stuff will bloat that a bit

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Re: KDE Neon.
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sun Jun 21 2026 12:20:00

I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

There are sooo many comeback for that, I don't know where to start. ;)

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Re: KDE Neon.
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sun Jun 21 2026 12:20:00

Are you specifically trying to test KDE or just want a Linux distro to play with?

Puppy Linux and Damn Small Linux are tiny and don't need many resources.

Alpine if you want something for the server side to be used with Docker, although it can be used for anything

-nick

I am thinking KDE Neon is a horrible choice to run under a virtual machine. 8gb ram is not really ideal. I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!

This is me, I think...

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I am thinking KDE Neon is a horrible choice to run under a virtual machine. 8gb ram is not really ideal. I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

what are you using it for? Alpine is pretty nice for tiny stuff, but you have the alternate libc and toolset (musl and BusyBox) so some things aren't 100% compatible without a little help.

I want to run a bbs on it. I am realizing Microsoft is a sinking ship.
Windows 11 is just as bad as windows vista.

I want something that has most of the libraries pre-installed.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Matthew Munson to FUSION on Tue Jun 23 2026 19:31:00

Windows 11 is just as bad as windows vista.

Debateable, but that means Windows 12 should be awesome.

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I am trying to find my ideal distribution. It feels like dating.

There are sooo many comeback for that, I don't know where to start. ;)

Such as, in both cases you may get screwed ? B)

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Matthew Munson to FUSION on Tue Jun 23 2026 07:31 pm

I want to run a bbs on it. I am realizing Microsoft is a sinking ship. Windows 11 is just as bad as windows vista.

One of my favorite Linux distributions these days is Linux Mint. I've been using Linux Mint on a secondary PC since 2015 and have had very little trouble with it. I was running my BBS in a Windows VM on it for a while, but I moved my BBS to the Linux side abotu 4 years ago and it has been running great. I mostly just update the software packages every so often, and I've installed some BBS-related software on it (such as ANSI editors), but otherwise I just let it run. I also run Plex Media Server on the same PC.

Linux Mint is available in a few flavors, with different window managers: Cinnamon (which I think has the most bells & whistles), Xfce (which I had always heard is more lightweight, but not sure if that's true anymore), and MATE. I run Linux Mint Xfce edition for my BBS PC.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Nightfox to Matthew Munson on Wed Jun 24 2026 09:37 am

I want to run a bbs on it. I am realizing Microsoft is a sinking ship.
Windows 11 is just as bad as windows vista.

I have ran game servers using Ubuntu withthe LXDE desktop, very light weight leaving recources for the servers.

One of my favorite Linux distributions these days is Linux Mint. I've been using Linux Mint on a secondary PC since 2015 and have had very little trouble with it. I was running my BBS in a Windows VM on it for a while, but I moved my BBS to the Linux side abotu 4 years ago and it has been

I have tried mint in the past, was just to much junk that came with it.
of coarse mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on debian.
I really like the Ubuntu firewall ufw, easy to open or block ports.
On my game servers I start with all inbound and outbound ports closed, then I just open ports my servers actually use, I always change my SSH port and VNC ports to ports that are uncommon.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Jun 24 2026 12:05 pm

I have tried mint in the past, was just to much junk that came with it. of

I think what I like most about Linux Mint is that it tends to just work, so it's easy to run & maintain. And it includes useful software packages.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Nightfox to Matthew Munson on Wed Jun 24 2026 09:37 am

One of my favorite Linux distributions these days is Linux Mint. I've been

de abotu 4 years ago and it has been running great. I mostly just update th e same PC.

Linux Mint is available in a few flavors, with different window managers: Ci ition for my BBS PC.

I am running Linux Mint XFCE on a notebook computer that has never touched the internet and never will. I love it. It's like my own island of my archives, games, and other things and I never have random updates removing functionality because some programmer thought they knew more than me.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon. By: Nightfox to Matthew Munson on Wed Jun 24 2026 09:37 am

I want to run a bbs on it. I am realizing Microsoft is a sinking ship. Windows 11 is just as bad as windows vista.

D I have ran game servers using Ubuntu withthe LXDE desktop, very light weight leaving recources for the servers.
D

Why use a gui at all with serverS?

MM > One of my favorite Linux distributions these days is Linux Mint. I've been using Linux Mint on a secondary PC since 2015 and have had very little
MM > trouble with it. I was running my BBS in a Windows VM on it for a while, but I moved my BBS to the Linux side abotu 4 years ago and it has been
D
D I have tried mint in the past, was just to much junk that came with it. of coarse mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on debian. I really like the
D Ubuntu firewall ufw, easy to open or block ports. On my game servers I start with all inbound and outbound ports closed, then I just open ports my servers
D actually use, I always change my SSH port and VNC ports to ports that are uncommon.
D
D |10AlrightyDenn
D

Same answer to you. Use a CTRL+ALT+F2 for another tty, up to 11. 12 is used for kernel or dmesg, and 7 and 1 would be used for X11 depending how you have yours set up, I haven't tried mint or ubuntu for years now so I don't even know if they have that functionality built in without some configuring.
But if you can use other tty's not under a desktop, you can fire up all the servers you need with a ./serverstartup.sh && in another tty in case you
need to logout of your desktop(or crashing desktop) as i'll keep saying it as.. all servers stay running while you deal with window management problems and
updates..

Blocking ports is pretty easy too.. and those scanner bots will slow your net down when you use unconventional ports too most likely.
get rid of sudo, especially for ssh and use encryption keys only for ssh.. If you really need to, you can su into root.. and if you are running ssh, then
synchro won't be using that port for it's ssh.. I don't use ssh on my system since it's local I can see it on the screen kinda server. So synchro runs on
the normal ssh port..

Ok enough ranting I suppose.

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Re: Re: KDE Neon. By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Jun 24 2026 12:05 pm

I have tried mint in the past, was just to much junk that came with it. of

I think what I like most about Linux Mint is that it tends to just work, so it's easy to run & maintain. And it includes useful software packages.
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Check your github issues sometime eh.. : https://github.com/EricOulashin/SlyMail/issues/37

Also most distro's just work out of the box.. they have everything in as modules or into the kernel itself, which means a ton of bloat for a kernel
But they are handy for rescuing one that is totally custom. Mint also usually has outdated full of security holed software, so does ubuntu for that
matter. Even gentoo is starting to lean on binary packages for people to start out all "cozy" if they want. And a gui is in the works for installing
off of livecd or dvd whatever.. I'm not to keen on that, but whatever eh.. long as people go off of the cozy route and learn how every command in
linux works at least somewhat. Never really been a hand holder type of fellow..but I do help people if I can be of assistance sometimes on irc.

Anyways, another issue with SlyMail, either people have messed up ansi code that they think is right on SyncTerm, or SlyMail isn't reading something
properly, or I configured it wrong. Please advise.

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I am running Linux Mint XFCE on a notebook computer that has never touched the internet and never will. I love it. It's like my own island of my
archives, games, and other things and I never have random updates removing functionality because some programmer thought they knew more than me.

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I guess that is your choice if you never want to hook it up to the net in any way. I'd see this as an approach to mess with LFS or Linux From Scratch
or gentoo.. or about any other distro really that gives you freedom of updates and whilst keeping or using whichever version, or even your own code
for a package, while being able to be on the net if you wanted, say, retroachievements.org or whatever.. I don't have random updates at all.. I have to
just run an emerge --sync ..then emerge -avuDN @world ..then it asks me at the end if i want to do this.. i can make old packages remain as in --noreplace
or not. Can make that notebook into a server for your files to use on your own local network with a firewall that just processes 192.168.1.0/24 or
whatever your subnet is on.. I actually run a batocera machine in the kitchen for now, have no help moving the crt tv that is heavy as hell and have no idea how I had the strength to slap it in the back of my car. Messed up my arm a ton.. anyways. I can boot up pcsx2 or whatnot, or even anything that can run
those rom folders.. retroarch.. just mount the networked filesystem to an actual directory in /mnt/network-roms perhaps.. if ya make the dir or another..
any comp in the house can use it.. not quite as easy as linux, but should do.. But anyways no need for auto updating.. not even sure where you got that from, cause it's not needed in linux.. and if it does have auto updates, i'd check the crontab. Peace -Out

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Darksix to Nightfox on Thu Jun 25 2026 02:25 pm

Check your github issues sometime eh.. : https://github.com/EricOulashin/SlyMail/issues/37

I saw that; sorry I haven't gotten to it yet; I've been focusing on some other things. I'll see if I can get to it soon.

Anyways, another issue with SlyMail, either people have messed up ansi code that they think is right on SyncTerm, or SlyMail isn't reading something properly, or I configured it wrong. Please advise.

Can you point me to some specific ANSI messages? All the ANSI messages I've seen look good in SlyMail, to me..

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Re: Re: KDE Neon.
By: Darksix to Denn on Thu Jun 25 2026 02:25 pm

D I have ran game servers using Ubuntu withthe LXDE desktop, very light
weight leaving recources for the servers.

Why use a gui at all with serverS?

I don't really see the problem with using a GUI with a server machine..? I use Linux Mint XFCE on my BBS machine. I'd be alright using a distro without a GUI for it (and I've been using Linux for years, and I feel comfortable with the command line), but I feel like a GUI has some advantages. The main reason is that I can have multiple console windows open and visible at the same time - For my BBS, I tend to have the Synchronet UNIX monitor on screen as well as a console window following the Synchronet log so I can see log messages go by. Also, although I like vim, sometimes I like using a GUI-based text editor. Recently, I've also been using Cursor AI for help with some development & debugging tasks, and I believe Cursor is only available as a GUI app (which is based on Visual Studio Code) - though it's possible they might have a version that works simply from the command line.

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